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#71
This is Sputnik, also take it with caution:


Portugal to Bypass EU and Negotiate Own Post-Brexit Deal With UK 

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201811011...exit-deal/

Portugal’s foreign minister also accused the European Union of leaving them in a state of “limbo” and exposed to the economic shocks of a no-deal Brexit.

Portuguese Foreign Minister Augusto Santos Silva has hit out at the EU for not allowing member states to secure their own bespoke, bilateral trade deals with Britain while Brexit negotiations have been faltering.


Warning that they are currently in a state of “suspension” and “limbo”, Silva said the stalled negotiations between Brussels and the UK is raising the likelihood of a hard Brexit, which he described as the worst possible outcome.


“At the same time, it limits member states like Portugal [in their ability to] deal with their bilateral relationship [with the UK].”


Moreover, the Portuguese official suggested they will negotiate their own deal with the UK after March 2019, as they can’t do so until then due to EU rules, warning that their economy will be severely hurt by a hard Brexit, as Britain is a key market for Portuguese exports.


Portugal is also a popular tourist destination for many Brits, who have propped up the southern European country’s economy in recent years.
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#72
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli...ial-brexit

October 31, 2018, at 10:15 p.m

The European Commission briefed the ambassadors of the EU’s remaining 27 member states earlier today.

European diplomats have been told that it's still not clear where the UK stands on finding a solution to avoiding a hard border in Northern Ireland after Brexit, according to a diplomatic note circulated to European capitals on Wednesday.

The note, seen by BuzzFeed News, states that EU negotiators are hoping Theresa May's team will provide clarity by the middle of next week. That expectation, however, has been received with some pessimism among ambassadors of the EU’s remaining 27 member states who met with the European Commission earlier today.


According to the diplomatic note, the latest idea on the table – devised by the EU to accommodate British concerns and requests – would feature a multi-tiered solution to unlock the backstop stalemate. This would include a bare bones customs union for the whole of the UK, covering duty and quota-free trade, with Britain committing to a common external tariff.


A customs union, however, would not remove the need for all regulatory checks and controls between the UK and the EU, meaning that a legally-binding "backstop to the backstop" for only Northern Ireland would still be required.

Diplomats were told that the EU is still waiting for the UK to clearly state its position on this offer, and what it is prepared to accept in order to conclude deal.

Some European governments, meanwhile, feel the EU has already been too flexible in its offer to the UK. A diplomatic source told BuzzFeed News that a number of member states, including France, expressed concerns during Wednesday’s meeting.

UK and EU negotiators had indeed explored the possibility of extending the transition period by bolting on an additional year to the 2020 deadline currently planned.


But, the note says, any extension would require the UK to commit to a financial contribution to cover the additional year and, although the offer of extending is still on the table, May’s government has made no such commitment yet, thus stalling that discussion.


Though the European Commission briefed the 27 diplomats that it is hopeful of some clarity in the middle part of next week, a diplomatic source told BuzzFeed News they were pessimistic.
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#73
Meanwhile ...


EU citizens are already experiencing Brexit’s hostile environment

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk...nvironment

Europeans are angry, and tired, and finding themselves in situations the government had promised would never happen.

“Over the last months, the UK government has been reluctant to provide any detail on what will happen to the citizens' rights for the 3.6 million EU citizens in the UK beyond a vague verbal unilateral guarantee given by Theresa May in October.

Nokes’ comments meant “plunging 3.6 million EU citizens directly into the hostile environment.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-immigration-no-deal-rights-eu-citizens-employers-home-office-caroline-nokes-a8611966.html

Europeans would find themselves unable to prove they have the right to remain. A promise from the government doesn’t equal legal documents.

Having the right to work in the UK, whether you have to prove it or not, is already a headache for EU citizens. Because the Brexit outcome is still so vague, it’s difficult to plan ahead professionally, even just to one year in the future. 

Anna Runicky (not her real name), an Austrian citizen working in the academic sector, is on a fixed-term contract running until next October. “If my current employer then wants to re-hire me, or if I move to a different one, I will have to prove my right to work,” she tells me. “Unless I already have Settled Status by then, this will be, to cite Ms Nokes, ‘a challenge’.”

study from Oxford Economics recently found that each year, European citizens in the UK contribute £2,300 more to public finances than the UK average. Over their lifespan in the UK, the net contribution to the exchequer for one EU citizen is estimated around £78,000. 

None of this has apparently been enough for the British government to guarantee their rights to work after Brexit. Mishaps such as Nokes’ might just be mishaps, but after 850 days in what many describe as “limbo”, Europeans are angry, and tired, and finding themselves in situations the government had promised would never happen.

Many Europeans already have a “hostile environment” story. On various social media forums for EU citizens, people have been complaining about new details in job ads for months – often now, the recruiter plainly asks for a “British passport” instead of proof of the right to work in the EU, a common request previously. This is not a legal requirement, since the UK hasn’t left the EU until next March. But it’s already happening, and frightening Europeans. 

Ghislaine van der Burgt, a Dutch freelance translator who lives in Barry, Wales, speaks of a rental nightmare. After separating from her partner last year, she found impossible to find accomodation for her and her two children, aged 13 and 11. “Literally every broker had a problem with the combination of self-employed and foreign passport,” she said. Most conversations with real estate agents turned difficult after her Dutch nationality was mentioned, she said.

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#74
(02-11-18, 04:46 PM)Antarctican Wrote: That link forwards to http://ww8.http.com/ and shows a blank page.

Sorry, I put in a single slash where it should have been a double slash.

Here it is again:

http://faz.net/net/aktuell/politik/there...98803.html
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#75
(02-11-18, 07:33 PM)Pablo Seville Wrote: This is Sputnik, also take it with caution:


Portugal to Bypass EU and Negotiate Own Post-Brexit Deal With UK 

https://sputniknews.com/europe/201811011...exit-deal/

Portugal’s foreign minister also accused the European Union of leaving them in a state of “limbo” and exposed to the economic shocks of a no-deal Brexit.

Portuguese Foreign Minister Augusto Santos Silva has hit out at the EU for not allowing member states to secure their own bespoke, bilateral trade deals with Britain while Brexit negotiations have been faltering.


Warning that they are currently in a state of “suspension” and “limbo”, Silva said the stalled negotiations between Brussels and the UK is raising the likelihood of a hard Brexit, which he described as the worst possible outcome.


“At the same time, it limits member states like Portugal [in their ability to] deal with their bilateral relationship [with the UK].”


Moreover, the Portuguese official suggested they will negotiate their own deal with the UK after March 2019, as they can’t do so until then due to EU rules, warning that their economy will be severely hurt by a hard Brexit, as Britain is a key market for Portuguese exports.


Portugal is also a popular tourist destination for many Brits, who have propped up the southern European country’s economy in recent years.

What a strange report. Portugal has profited enormously from EU membership. I remember when they joined, I was in the country at the time, the Portuguese were ecstatic about finally being members and welcomed tourists at the borders with brass bands as they entered the country. The country isn't just a popular holiday destination for Brits, it's also popular for Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Belgians...
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#76
(02-11-18, 09:23 PM)RightLeft Wrote: What a strange report. Portugal has profited enormously from EU membership. I remember when they joined, I was in the country at the time, the Portuguese were ecstatic about finally being members and welcomed tourists at the borders with brass bands as they entered the country. The country isn't just a popular holiday destination for Brits, it's also popular for Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Belgians...


Indeed. But there are historical reasons. Portugal became independent from Spain in 1640 with the help of England.

In 1137 the county of Catalonia (Barcelona) joins the kingdom of Aragon (Saragosa). in 1469 the Kindoms of Castile and Aragon join. In 1492 Granada joins. In 1512, Navarra joins. At last, Portugal in 1580. The Iberian Peninsula has only one king.

Queen Elizabeth I put her catholic cousinMary, Queen of Scots, in prison for nineteen years. In 1587 was executed (beheaded).
Francis Drake had undertaken a major voyage against Spanish ports and ships in the Caribbean in 1585 and 1586. In 1587 he made a successful raid on Cadiz

Since then there was war between Spain and England (1588 The Spanish Armada tried to invade England).

In 1640 the English encouraged and helped Catalonia, Andalucia and Portugal to become independent. Only Portugal managed to resist the Spanish attacks, with the help of English ships and troops. 

Since then, Portugal depended on England to defend itself against its powerful neighbor. Lisbon and Porto were ports of refuge for the English navy and commerce was very important (not just Porto wine).
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#77
(02-11-18, 07:33 PM)Pablo Seville Wrote: This is Sputnik, also take it with caution:

Portugal to Bypass EU and Negotiate Own Post-Brexit Deal With UK 

That is nonsense. It is legally impossible because trade negotiations of the EU customs union is the sole competence of the EU.
So dump that site and never look at it again. They don't know what they are talking about.




(02-11-18, 07:59 PM)Pablo Seville Wrote: https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli...ial-brexit
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Some European governments, meanwhile, feel the EU has already been too flexible in its offer to the UK. A diplomatic source told BuzzFeed News that a number of member states, including France, expressed concerns during Wednesday’s meeting.

So the issue here, as I understand, is the access to UK fishing waters for the EU members; Earlier the EU demanded UK fishing waters access as a trade-off for the UK fishers to bring their fish on shore in EU harbors.
If the EU now allows the whole of the UK in a customs union with the Eu then the UK fishermen automatically already have duty free access, and the EU loses fishing rights in UK waters.
Especially the coastal EU countries are opposed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/201...union-plan
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#78
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po...14786.html


Snarling Arlene claiming she hopes a border deal is close is exactly like the late doctor Harold Shipman claiming he wished all those nice OAPs had lived to the ripe old age of 100.

The DUP is wantonly trying to destroy the GFA and bring the hard border back. Why? Because the GFA guarantees a referendum on reunification, and demographics guarantees NI will have a catholic majority electorate in ten to fifteen years - or sooner. Furthermore, the DUP is an identity politics party, and the EU provides a European identity that supercedes and unites both communities, rather than devides them. Again, the DUP hates that, and wants to get rid of it. Despite even most of their loyalist voters in agriculture, agro-industry and manufacturing WANT the EU backstop, to keep their jobs, businesses and livelihoods safe, and to keep the precious peace in NI intact.
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#79
(03-11-18, 09:26 AM) Wrote: The DUP is wantonly trying to destroy the GFA

Just to add that the DUPes were the ONLY Northern Irish political party that was AGAINST the GFA and refused to sign it.

The UK government surely is in bed with very nice people - birds of a feather...
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#80
(03-11-18, 12:33 AM)Antarctican Wrote: That is nonsense. It is legally impossible because trade negotiations of the EU customs union is the sole competence of the EU.
So dump that site and never look at it again. They don't know what they are talking about.

The Portuguese minister said:
After a deal on the future relations between the UK and EU, because only then can a bilateral deal be reached, the Foreign minister said, since "our deep historic ties","it would take a few days to reach a bilateral agreement".
source

Brexit is a lose/lose mess. Some countries will lose more than others, with Ireland at the forefront, but undoubtedly the UK will be the biggest loser.
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