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News articles of interest (Brexit)
#51
Wink 
"Defaulting to WTO"

Wondering how this will work - good luck for L. Fox:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-17/how-tiny-moldova-s-brexit-grudge-could-cost-u-k-1-7-trillion 
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#52
(23-10-18, 05:00 PM)TheLawsOfPhysics Wrote: "Defaulting to WTO"

Wondering how this will work - good luck for L. Fox:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-17/how-tiny-moldova-s-brexit-grudge-could-cost-u-k-1-7-trillion 


Bloomberg isn't quite considered an independent and reliable source anymore these days.
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#53
Hi Antarctican - are you suggesting that the statement below isn't reliable and independent? 
"Moldova was joined by the U.S., New Zealand Japan, South Korea, Ukraine, and Israel in expressing concern that the U.K. application didn’t pass muster, according to officials familiar with the accession procedure. U.S. reticence was due to the U.K.’s failure to provide requested information and updates."

BTW, I'm not defending Bloomberg here, but neither The Independent, The Guardian nor BBC are free from misinterpretation of facts or even erroneous statements. In fact the opposite, one needs to be critical and double check almost every sentence. Almost like reading a report from an inexperienced trainee or correcting child's homework. This is actually frightening cause not everyone exhibits this amount of skepticism so many will take written word for granted as long as it comes from the "right source" (see https://fullstorymedia.co.uk/2018/06/29/...-business/). Sorry for long digression.
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#54
No I meant it generally; For example Bloomberg is sourcing the story that China is planting spy chips on server motherboards for sale to Amazon and Google datacenters, something that is practically and economically implausible and denied by everyone involved and independent security companies.

As for your 3 UK news sources; totally true. Expecially the Indy is very often not even close to the truth. There is a lot of sensation amd ignorance there.
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#55
One of many examples of why the UK in the EU, was somebody in the world stage...

Argentina would use no-deal Brexit to ‘enhance’ Falklands claim, says foreign minister
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#56
Hi Swaziking

Argentina will lobby some of the MS, particularly Italy where there are strong ties with the Argentine community. Many Italians emigrated in Argentina and in Uruguay (two of my grandfather's brothers did). I was living in Italy during the Faklands/Malvinas war and most newspapers editorials (even the leftish ones) were anti-British and digging old grudges about colonial Britain.

Furthermore, the UK WTO schedules negotiations will not be a walk in the park.

The Brexiters' failure to grasp that we live now in a multipolar world and that the US will not save them will be very costly for the UK.
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#57
The UK in trouble at the WTO

(26-10-18, 10:51 AM)ClairefromFR Wrote: Argentina will lobby some of the MS, particularly Italy where there are strong ties with the Argentine community. Many Italians emigrated in Argentina
Furthermore, the UK WTO schedules negotiations will not be a walk in the park.

Argentina may lobby in Slovenia too. Many Slovenians emigrated to Argentina and still keep strong national identity and ties to Slovenia - they also hold Slovenian citizenship: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovene_Argentines

Indeed, even one of our PMs (a rather short-term one) Andrej Bajuk took office shortly after returning to Slovenia from Argentina:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrej_Bajuk

Croatia too has a strong diaspora in Argentina:
http://www.hrvatiizvanrh.hr/en/hmiu/croa...gentina/16

Besides, the EU27 are holding trade talks with the Mercosur bloc and have withdrawn our previous support of the UK re the Malvinas to facilitate the final stages of negotiations.

Argentina eyes Brexit advantage in Falklands dispute (20 April 2017)
Argentina believes Brexit might cost Britain the support of European allies for its control of the Falkland Islands and is watching developments closely, the Argentinian foreign minister said in Brussels... A spokesman for the EU’s foreign policy service declined comment on whether the bloc might change policy on the Falklands.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...KKBN17M2AS

A rather stupid idea to go it alone = deliberately weaken and isolate your own country thus exposing it to blackmailing from just about every country in the world, big and small, friend and foe. Everyone will try to get from Brexit Britain what they have always wanted.


"Furthermore, the UK WTO schedules negotiations will not be a walk in the park."

Indeed. In the news two days ago:

Russia blocks UK's post-Brexit tariff proposal at WTO (24 Oct 2018)  Exclamation  
The UK’s proposal to split its import quotas from those of the EU after Brexit has drawn an official objection from Russia at the World Trade Organization, MLex has learned.
An objection from a single trading partner means that the WTO can’t certify the proposal until the problem is resolved. It might also force the UK to undergo the full procedure for changing its rates, rather than the simplified “rectification” procedure it has so far pursued.
https://mlexmarketinsight.com/insights-c...sal-at-wto

And yesterday:

UK signals failure of bid for quick Brexit transition at WTO (25 oct 2018)  Exclamation
Britain signaled on Thursday that its attempt to seal terms for its post-Brexit membership of the World Trade Organization by a fast-track procedure had failed, and it must now enter negotiations which are likely to be lengthy.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brita...SKCN1MZ2CX

And today:

Russia’s trade intervention is just the start of Liam Fox’s problems (26 Oct 2018)  Exclamation  

While Russia’s objection has occupied the headlines, many of Britain’s closest allies have raised concerns as well. Among these are the US, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. The reality is that when it comes to agriculture, special relationships mean little in practice. Everyone’s out for their own as far as meat and dairy go, and trade negotiations sink or swim on these issues.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...s-liam-fox


Not looking good for global Brexit Britain. Never did look anything but bleak, actually.
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#58
Why the British (leave supporters) must "live Brexit" to believe the mistake. 

BBC-Friction-less Border
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#59
An interesting piece on the possible EU  strategy behind the negotiations.
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#60
(31-10-18, 08:17 PM)Antarctican Wrote: An interesting piece on the possible EU  strategy behind the negotiations.

Precisely. We all know the UK cannot afford a no deal brexiet - economically, socially and more importantly (for the Tories), politically. Only the dumbest of brexiters shouting "they need us more than we need them" ever thought otherwise. For the Brits, time is the enemy and procrastination by their Government is no longer a feasible strategy. The closer the drag their country to the brink of a no deal, disorderly, cliff edge brexit, the more desperate they will become for a deal. For us in the EU27, time is our friend, and we can watch and wait.... tick.... tock....
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