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(07) The Brexit ball in UK's court - waiting for ratification (from 15 Dec 2018)
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The Brexit ball in UK's court - waiting for ratification
from 15 Dec 2018

So the regular December EU summit which was not supposed to be about Brexit at all yet the UK hijacked it again due to its own incompetence is over. Going for Christmas/New Year holidays, with the Brexit clock ticking and the UK still stuck in Brexit square one.

The EU27 are going for Christmas holidays - Tusk got no mandate from the 27 PMs/presidents to have Brexit re-re-re-negotiations about anything. The Brexit ball is in the UK court.

There is now only one regular EU summit at which the UK will be present left - the one on 21-22 March 2019. After 29 March, the UK will be gone from all EU institutions.

Here is the place to debate the developments in the run-up to 21 January 2019 and indeed the B-day on 29 March 2019. We are also trying to keep up with the related news articles. You can also chew on the EU summit on 13-14 December and its fallout here.

I compiled below a list of important Brexit and other dates (I am inserting updates as more news emerge).


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News update

15 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3414#pid3414
16 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3466#pid3466
17 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3484#pid3484
18 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3520#pid3520
19 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3607#pid3607
20 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3644#pid3644
21 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3690#pid3690
22 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3730#pid3730
26 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3890#pid3890
28 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3920#pid3920
29 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3949#pid3949
30 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3968#pid3968
31 December http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=3993#pid3993
3 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4116#pid4116
4 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4181#pid4181
5 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4251#pid4251
6 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4266#pid4266
7 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4290#pid4290
9 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4350#pid4350
10 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4364#pid4364
11 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4396#pid4396
13 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4446#pid4446
14 January http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4460#pid4460
15 January: Meaningless vote!!! http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4486#pid4486

The Swire amendement: A journey of discovery
http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4387#pid4387
Brexit: What happens next? (11 Jan 2019)  Exclamation  
http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4422#pid4422

Meaningless vote: Selected amendments and voting order  Exclamation  
http://debateuncensored.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=200&pid=4511#pid4511



Timeline

25 November (Sunday): the special EU summit (approval of the WA and the PD)

13 December (Thursday) Brexit meeting of the EU27 Council (27 PMs/presidents); EU27 preparations for no deal  

14 December (Friday) regular meeting of the European Council (28 PMs/presidents) 

17 December (Monday) PM May explaining the EU summit to the HoC

18 December (Tuesday) PM May facing her war cabinet

19 December (Wednesday) the European Commission to publish further instructions for no-deal preparations  

19 December (Wednesday) PMQ in HoC, HMG to publish immigration policy

20 December (Thursday) Ireland's government to publish no-deal plans

20 December to 7 January UK parliament on holidays

24 December to 6 January European Parliament on holidays


2019

1 January (Tuesday) Romania takes over the Council presidency (from Austria)

1 January (Tuesday) EU anti-tax directive comes into force

2 January (Wednesday) PM May faces her war cabinet

7 January (Monday) re-start of the WA debate at HoC cancelled by UK government, moved to Wednesday

7 January (Monday) UK to start no-deal chaos rehearsals with hired lorries in Kent

8 January (Tuesday) UK to start a no-deal propaganda campaign

9 January (Wednesday) re-start of the WA debate at HoC

14 January (Monday) meaningless debate about the WA in the HoC continues

Arrow 15 January (Tuesday) meaningless vote on the WA at the HoC at 20.00 CET Exclamation  

Arrow 15 January (Tuesday) weekly meeting of the European Commission

Arrow 15 January (Tuesday) Barnier's meeting with European Ombudsman re Brexit transparency

14-17 January (Monday to Thursday): plenary session of the European Parliament

16 January (Wednesday) Plenary session of the European Parliament: Brexit debate, future of Europe with Spanish PM Sanchez   

21 January (Monday) UK's deadline for voting about the WA in the HoC  Exclamation  

21 January (Monday) in case of MPs downvoting the WA, PM May to present plan B to HoC

23 January (Wednesday) SIX YEARS since Cameron announced the Brexit referendum  Exclamation  

11-14 February (Monday to Thursday): plenary session of the European Parliament

14-25 February (Thursday to next Monday) UK parliament on holidays

11-14 March (Monday to Thursday): plenary session of the European Parliament (last chance to ratify the WA)

19 March (Tuesday) EU27 GAC (Brexit)

21-22 March (Thursday and Friday): regular meeting of the European Council (28 PMs/presidents); the last European Council meeting at which the British PM will be present

29 March midnight CET (Friday evening): Brexit

1 April (Monday) first working day after Brexit

15-18 April (Monday to Thursday): last plenary session of the European Parliament in this mandate

23-26 May EU elections

9 May (Victory in Europe day) EU summit in Sibiu, Romania (first EU summit without the UK)
http://business-review.eu/international/...ats-184153

20-21 June EU summit

1 July Finland takes over the Council presidency (from Romania)

2-4 July first session of the new European Parliament

July hearings of a candidate for president of the European Commission

17-18 October EU summit

1 November new European Commission
#2
News update (15 December 2018)

Today:
* in the UK: meltdown
* in the EU27: festive weekend


Reality check:

Brexit Britain: Small, boring and stupid (13 Dec 2018)  Cool  
The UK better get used to being a middling power.
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-b...awal-deal/

Interview with Ryan Heath, the author of the above article (14 Dec 2018) - video  Exclamation  
https://www.facebook.com/POLITICOeu/videos/vb.587266261407195/229319917965870/?type=2&theater
A very good reality-check interview. Not just Brexit, also the EU in general.

Dramatic Brexit week leaves us none the wiser (15 Dec 2018)  Exclamation Exclamation  
by Tony Connelly
https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2018/1214...ly-brexit/


Catching up with the EU summit:

May and Juncker clash over ‘nebulous’ comment (14 Dec 2018)  Exclamation  
The UK prime minister said EU leaders were willing to continue talking about further ‘assurances’ for MPs.
https://www.politico.eu/article/may-and-...s-comment/
A good overview of nebulous events.


On Fantasy Island:

Hunt says version of PM May's deal can get through parliament (15 Dec 2018)
Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said on Saturday that the British parliament could back Prime Minister Theresa May's deal if lawmakers received assurances from the European Union, but warned that a no deal Brexit was still on the table...
Following a summit in Brussels on Friday, May said it was possible that the EU could give further guarantees that the backstop would be temporary although the bloc’s other 27 leaders told her they would not renegotiate the treaty.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...KKBN1OE07P
Which parts of 'Backstop means backstop' and 'No' do the Brits not understand?


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(15-12-18, 10:28 AM)Ajda Slovenia Wrote: 14-25 February (Thursday to next Monday) UK parliament on holidays

Why? Is it usual? With so much to do, one would expect time to be scarce, till 29 March.
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(15-12-18, 11:19 AM)SwaziKing Wrote: Why? Is it usual? With so much to do, one would expect time to be scarce, till 29 March.

Yes, I think so - they seem to coincide with Brit. school holidays (half term). As for the time factor: as the teenage king of procrastination, who lives in my house, would say: Ah .... it'll be 
fiiiinnne!!!  Big Grin

Having checked the parliamentary schedule for this year I noticed there seem to be more recesses than anything else - probably because the folks need to regain their voices after the screaming matches (and perhaps because even they can't display the utter stupidity necessary for 'The House' all the time....) Big Grin
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(15-12-18, 11:19 AM)SwaziKing Wrote: Why? Is it usual? With so much to do, one would expect time to be scarce, till 29 March.

The super-hard-working mega -efficient British MPs are on super-long holidays all the time - check here:
https://www.parliament.uk/about/faqs/hou...ess-dates/

In the next few months, they will be on holidays:
* from 20 Dec 2018 to 6 January 2019
* from 14 to 24 February 2019
* from 3 April to 22 April 2019

Totally unbelievable - they have ZERO sense of duty to sort out Brexit! They will even go on holidays immediately after the B-day!!! And the sheepish British people are just watching it all.

After Slovenia voted to exit our previous Yugoslav union in December 1990 (with ALL parliamentary parties supporting exit, and they have also signed an official statement pledging that in case of a Yes vote, they will take on the responsibility for sorting out exit and work together on all exit issues; the vote was 95% yes at 93% turnout), our government and parliament (assisted by many experts for law, economy etc.) in effect worked around the clock for a year or so, with no holidays. Six months after the referendum, Slovenia was OUT (exactly at the deadline given to our parliament by the people in the referendum), with all new legislation and functionality in place.

The most hilarious thing is that the lazy British MPs expect for the EU27 to work over the Christmas/New Year holidays on 're-re-re-negotiations' of the exit agreement. Well, Tusk and Juncker said in no uncertain terms yesterday - they will NOT be in Brussels over the holidays, and nobody on the EU27 side got any mandate from the 27 PMs/presidents to negotiate anything with the UK anyway.
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(15-12-18, 12:15 PM)Ajda Slovenia Wrote: The most hilarious thing is that the lazy British MPs expect for the EU27 to work over the Christmas/New Year holidays on 're-re-re-negotiations' of the exit agreement. Well, Tusk and Juncker said in no uncertain terms yesterday - they will NOT be in Brussels over the holidays, and nobody on the EU27 side got any mandate from the 27 PMs/presidents to negotiate anything with the UK anyway.

The weirdest thing is that they expect the EU to work on the re-re-negotiations without the help of its re-re-negotiating partner (aka the UK representatives) who will be kicking back in front of the fire with a glass of (EU?) wine in their onesies .....

Argh!!   

May, Bojo' Rees-Mogg et al.  in a onesie!!!   Now how am I going to get those images out of my head??   Big Grin 

PS. Does UNCAT say anything specific about onesies?
#7
(15-12-18, 10:55 AM)Ajda Slovenia Wrote: On Fantasy Island:

Hunt says version of PM May's deal can get through parliament (15 Dec 2018)
Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt said on Saturday that the British parliament could back Prime Minister Theresa May's deal if lawmakers received assurances from the European Union, but warned that a no deal Brexit was still on the table...
Following a summit in Brussels on Friday, May said it was possible that the EU could give further guarantees that the backstop would be temporary although the bloc’s other 27 leaders told her they would not renegotiate the treaty.
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britai...KKBN1OE07P
Which parts of 'Backstop means backstop' and 'No' do the Brits not understand?

Ajda I feel you are being a tad unfair here. 

Brits understand 'Backstop means backstop' and 'No' perfectly well - they can even use both at the same time!

Take  'Backstop means no backstop' for instance - perfect use of both statements.... Big Grin
#8
(15-12-18, 10:55 AM)Ajda Slovenia Wrote: Brexit Britain: Small, boring and stupid (13 Dec 2018)  Cool  
The UK better get used to being a middling power.
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-b...awal-deal/

When posting in "The Independent" I usualy use a football anology, that pub experts easily understand (3 Blokes are exempt  Wink)

The world is divided into leagues:
- Premier League - EU, USA and China
- League Championship - no one has the requirements to play in this league
- League One - Japan, UK, Canada...

Quote:It is Britain’s unique ignorance that makes Britain so boring. Ignorant about its leverage and ignorant about the EU,
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(15-12-18, 12:52 PM)Moonfire Wrote: The weirdest thing is that they expect the EU to work on the re-re-negotiations without the help of its re-re-negotiating partner (aka the UK representatives) who will be kicking back in front of the fire with a glass of (EU?) wine in their onesies .....
Argh!!   
May, Bojo' Rees-Mogg et al.  in a onesie!!!   Now how am I going to get those images out of my head??

Here is the Brexit line of onsesies, with comforting unicorn design, fits Leavers and Remainers alike:

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In the meantime, Barnier will be skiing in his beloved Alps.  Big Grin 

When one French diplomat heard back in 1999 that Barnier had been picked as France’s European Commissioner, he exclaimed: “A ski instructor?”
https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magaz...negotiator


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(15-12-18, 02:57 PM)Ajda Slovenia Wrote: Here is the Brexit line of onsesies, with comforting unicorn design, fits Leavers and Remainers alike...

ROFL - just as well the UK  didn't turn up to the negotiations in these - the EU wouldn't have stood a chance (how do you say 'no' when you're killing yourself laughing?)

Of course 'real Brits' would only wear them in red, white and blue... it helps when being 'strong and stable'  Big Grin ... oh and of course non-nebulous Big Grin.


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